Show me a religion in which there was one who martyred like Jesus. He martyred because people always hated the truth he spoke. They like to quote passages that they don't understand and hate it when you bring up other passages.
Let me show you how Abraham died of the Abrahamic religions.
Altogether, Abraham lived a hundred and seventy-five years. Then Abraham breathed his last and died at a good old age, an old man and full of years; and he was gathered to his people. the field Abraham had bought from the Hittites
And now fucking muhammad
In 632, a few months after returning from the Farewell Pilgrimage, he fell ill and died. By the time of his death, most of the Arabian Peninsula had converted to Islam.
Now how did Jesus die and what did he say to piss so many people off? I'll tell you exactly my favorite bible passage.
But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.
I think that covers pedophilia and child abuse and so many different things depending on your culture. Did you know you get shorter as you age?
Of course not.
I wish I could've, I don't have that power. I was just thinking about Christian hate and considering the differences.
If Jesus existed. Unlike Muhammad who was a real person. The cause and effect were no different. Both religions fought bloody civil wars on founding that lasted centuries killing millions and millions and millions. Both have been responsible for claiming countless lives. Both were founded in bloody revolutions completing rewriting previous religious narratives, completely expelling and changing prior religions. Both had renaissances. And founded Empires. But both religions were founded on lies. Mecca isn't Muhammed's birth place. Jesus didn't resurrect. Both were likely married. Who cares about ages. Then, marriage was different.
The Kibblah was home to the prophet. Why does every early founding mosque, they face it, face somewhere else? Because it got moved to Mecca after civil wars. They lasted close to 3 centuries. The Koran was rewritten.
Same as the bible. Many early versions have less disciples, no resurrection, and omitted testaments. In particular Magdaline. Presumed to be his wife.
Hot topic, controversy. Belief is what it is to the believer. You won't change it. You'll just piss them off. No intention when seeking knowledge and origin.
I see you're not a proponent of lost history? Don't believe everything you read in the textbooks until you can create a coral castle.
The Roman historian Tacititus and Jewish Historian both write of the historical Jesus. There is historical records of Pontus Pilate. There are other contemporary sources I don't recall at the moment, besides the Bible itself, where as if you just take it as partial history book, discounting the miracles and so on, it seems very unlikely that all these authors just made up some fictional figure. They may have lied about witnessing him after his crucifixion, but they didn't all write about a made up character either.