Gravity doesn't exist. I don't need to prove that because it hasn't even been proven that gravity does exist.
Shape? We don't have that data. We are currently 2 dimensional in regards to Earth. We know a map. We can't comprehend a globe.
Size? Again, we are 2 dimensional. We only have the data that made it through the geographer. Past Antarctica could be anything from a barren icy wasteland to a tropical paradise.
Math only works under the assumption of a globe. So does science. If the earth is not a globe, it upends everything.
Space is mostly fake. The best consumer digital 📷 (*icon to denote not on a phone) cannot discern features even on Mars. It shows a strange, pulsating orb, no matter the atmospheric conditions.
And for that matter, the atmosphere is too tenuous to produce twinkling. The firmament keeps the air on earth. If there is any twinkling, it would be caused by the "waters above."
Given the historical record of the Great Flood, which is referenced by countless religions and historic records etc, one must ask where exactly did the water come from? Yet science has not even attempted to tackle.
If, speculating of course, if the firmament does in fact, quite literally separate the waters from above from the waters below... And if that separation was say opened them would we not see a great swath of land affected by such an inundation of water? Why yes, yes we would. There's one place in which "science" tells us a great canyon was formed by a river, over millions of years. Let me be the first here then to state that the Grand Canyon in the Americas could very well have been formed quite quickly, as the heavens opened up and the Earth was inundated with water.
Before everyone jumps in and says their peace as to why that's crap..... Know this..... On most federal lands in the US, you know those national parks etc, there's has been documented and recorded finds of artifacts that directly go against the official historic narrative. Once you realize that the History we are taught is based on lies and deception, maybe then you'd be open to my assertion.
The great part is that everything hidden will become known. I wonder why people constantly end up missing from national parks.... Maybe they stumbled upon something they weren't allowed to see. Anyways,....
Carry On!!
A plausible biblical 'great flood' theory is that the Black Sea had a land bridge at the now open end which cracked and flooded the once fertile valley.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/noahs-ark-mystery-could-be-solved-by-black-sea-ancient-ships-research-europe-news/09472f6d-65a9-4936-b338-cab46ed62eb8
So maybe avoid taking things so literally.
Nah, it's more than that. Ever since we have been exploring the lofty heights of mountains as well as the canyons, we have found evidence of ocean life. It is a widely accepted fact from everyone from geologists to biologists that yes there was in fact an earthly flood that happened in which covered every land mass with water. The story of the Great Flood like I started previously is included in many religious texts, not just isolated to Christianity. When we find fossils high up in the mountains of salt water vegetation as well as evidence of erosion, to discredit tangible physical evidence in order to fit whatever alternate narrative your trying to push, that's cognitive dissonance and honestly tiresome and pointless.
We all have our opinions and beliefs, discounting any alternative to your worldview is a sad thing to do, just think about what other things in this life you have your mind made up on that just may be different in reality. You could be missing out on so much. Joining a discussion to discuss differing opinions is great, joining that discussion to be dismissive and combative is just plain ignorant.
Yeah, it's called tectonic plate movement. Look it up.
Not when your opponent is a fuck-wit moron. The amount of overt stupid in this forum is painful. No mercy.
Ahhh yes, I can truly see your clear and concise factual argument of my being a "fuck wit moron". I honestly cannot fathom why the best science books out there don't use that type of scientific terminology, especially when tectonic plate shifting is discussed. You proved my point by saying that. I would have given your comment some gravity within this discussion, but you had to throw grade school level playground talk to match it, not surprised you cling to old theories from grade school seeing how on an emotional level you never grew past it either.
I don't recall Einstein putting down Galileo like that. Did I miss that day in sixth grade? I suppose that the fully intact ship they found on the side of the mountain was put there due to a plate shift. I realize you probably are not aware of that discovery as they traditionally wait until people can grasp more advanced schooling, well past Jr high that is. It's all good though, I'm happy to see that spark in someone, that zest for scientific proofs. I guess if that's what motivates you, the stump jumping of topics just so you can exercise your mental gymnastics along with using personal potshots at other people's intellect. You ever hear of Napoleon?
Anyways, great discussion.