Trump ks calling Russia's war against Ukraine "genocide"
(thehill.com)
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Go tell your shit to the families of dead Ukrainians how it was their RIGHT to join an anti-Russia military alliance. In reality, the strong do what they will and the weak accept what they must. Weak countries with powerful neighbors probably shouldn't poke the bear.
Russia is doing exactly the same thing that the USA would do if the position was reversed. We would not tolerate Mexico allying with China and putting missiles on their territory aimed at us. Mexico has to at least maintain a plausible impression of friendly relations or they would get clapped. Ukraine got played into being our proxy to fight Russia.
No, my argument is that Ukraine should have strived to keep friendly relations with their massive nuclear armed neighbor rather than antagonize that neighbor by trying to join NATO.
Your arguments about morality are meaningless. Concepts of right or wrong do not matter to the dead. I bring up the US to point out that all powerful states behave this way to weaker neighbors. This has been true for all time. The comment about the strong doing what they will and the weak accepting what they must is a reference to the Melian Dialogue of the Peloponnesian war when "democratic" Athens massacred a weaker island nation of Melia. The Melians made the same argument you make about right and wrong. All their men ended up dead and their women and children slaves.
Meaningless? It's been a powerful lesson in realpolitik for 2000 years. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
I may need help sometime. But I don't walk up to the biggest baddest dude in the neighborhood, spit in his face and expect to be rescued.