What Really Happened In The Past?
It is a broad, but fascinating topic for our round table this time. In this hectic time of change, with major new conspiracies regularly being unearthed, we should be reminded of, and appreciate, those who tried to preserve an accurate telling of past events in the face of cover-ups, white-washes, propaganda and blatant ignorance.
Many things in history did not happen as we are told in state education and main stream sources. What example do you have? Which topic do you find most intriguing?
Thanks to everyone who made a suggestion and voted and to u/Gottmituns for the winning suggestion.
I'm starting to think everything before about 500 years ago is completely fabricated/heavily altered.
200-500 years ago is where I'm struggling. Seems like something really big happened, and uncovering this "thing" would explain a TON about what's going on today.
I'll admit I rolled my eyes a bit when mud flood/tartaria content started to explode on /r/con about 5 or so years ago. Now I'm listening.
500? Rookie numbers, gotta pump those down. I'd give it 130-150 years. Maybe even 250. At most 400. They lie about what is happening today and people believe the lies, it must have been so much easier with only a few newspapers and radio programs, or before when most weren't literate.
Phantom Time theory is proven with celestial eclipses. /r/cultrallayer is on the right track. The Roman Catholic Church controlled all reading and writing in Europe. They rewrote history from 1670-1710ish. The middle ages never happened, they added 1000 years. None of that 1000 years of history they added makes sense, or even adds up to 1000 years of history. Pompeii exploded in 1631. The Roman empire never fell, it changed its name. Wall Street stock exchange looks exactly like a Roman building in the front with the triangle on top of columns. The Bull symbology is all over the place. The statue of liberty is actually Apollo. It is also man in drag.
The supposed history of Columbus, Britain, and America doesn't make any sense. Supposedly the first permanent settle of the English at Jamestown happened over 100 years after land across the Atlantic was discovered. I've never believed that an island nation with a huge navy didn't start colonies, or the the first one was abandoned.
There is also the Worlds Fair theories, that the buildings already existed. That was a civilization in America before. There were stone buildings of Roman designs all across America. They claim most of the buildings were temporary, but they were so grand and elaborate for something temporary out of cheap materials.
I think there was a power change in the late 1800s. After the American civil war, a group discovered or took over something. There were train cars of redheaded children all across north america. Technology exploded so quickly in so many areas. Look at the navy ships during WW1. Somehow so many countries developed completely different looking and advanced ships in the 1900 decade, compare them ironclads or the first submarines.
Even the American Civil war is suspicious. As is the War of 1812, supposedly a tornado hit Washington DC and changed the war.
Just think about the Cold War. Supposedly the Soviets stopped trying to put a man on the moon despite being ahead most of the space race. During Pearl Harbor the American air craft carriers were out at sea. But also none of the Japanese planes targeted the massive fuel reserves at the navy base. I don't think any war in the past 100 years was unplanned by TPTB before hand.
If you really want to dive deep into Phantom Time and alternative history, look into The Greenland Theory. It combines phantom time with other theories, and explains a lot about Roman symbolism we have today, and the Greco-Roman-Egyptian-Babylonian power dynamic.
Excellent comment, thanks so much for contributing!
Yesthanks for the great comment. I have recently discovered a modification to the mudflood reset theory. Essentially that the old world was actually built by the holy roman civilization who spanned the world during the 1000 year reign of christ, at the wnd of which he took all the true christians up to heaven, and they left all this glorious architecture behind. And then it was revelation style carnage on earth, mudflood meteors etc etc wrath of god etc. so when that was over the people who were left over picked up the pieces, scrubbed the history, and repopulated the world. The secret societies protect this knowledge like the masons etc. most of us are descendents of the leftovers.
Tldr So basically its like white flight but for the whole world
Look up the Greenland Theory. It is similar to what you described.
Totally wrong bro. 1000 year reign & the stuff in revelations hasn’t happened yet. Please look more into it
Gonna have to justify your point if you want others to listen. If you don't want others to listen then you shouldn't bother commenting.
I've been in the conspiracy scene since 2009, with thousands of hours of research. I'd heard NOTHING of the Tartaria/Mud Flood theory until this year. Unless it's a Mandela Effect item, it's flat-earth style coordinated misdirection.
Its nonsense that appeals to schizos, shills and preteens.
I can see the argument for ancient advanced civilizations and cyclic history, but the people who want to claim that it happened in the last 1000 years are like the Pentacostals that think the dinosaurs lived with man and the earth is 2500 or so years old.
Go back to reddit you retarded faggot shill.
Lmao!
When someone tells you the earth is round you call them the retarded faggot shill!?
Bro, you can see the fucking curve of the earth plain as fucking day! Go watch the next lunar eclipse. The edge of earth's shadow as it moves across the moon is... OMG! Curved!!!
I know some retards have some cutesy contrived bullshit to retcon how seasons and day/night work, but the simple fact of the lunar eclipse blows them the fuck out completely.
Have you ever done genealogical research? Not ancestry dot com bull, but actual paper trail? Because your comment makes me wonder if you think that tons of random people for random reasons just made up dozens of names to write in their family bibles and such? This doesn't make sense when put against plain evidence... if we were talking about something going down in the 600-800's then maybe, but a few hundred years ago has written ephemera made by normal people.
I'm not who you replied to but I just googled the phantom time theory. The original claim is that it only spans 297 years(AD 614-911). I believe this is earlier than all of the genealogical records you're talking about.
I want to mention that I know nothing about this theory or these claims. I just learned about them in this thread so I am by no means knowledgeable on it.
There are absolutely genealogical records of that time period, particularly from the Byzantine Empire
There obviously are records of most European nobility, and of course China has records... but the Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire would be the source for voluminous ones of more than just royal lineages. Romans loved recording minutia and it would be rather inconceivable to fabricate that quantity of recorded history.
The concept of "phantom time" comes from not understanding the "dark ages" in Western Europe. There was still the rest of the world going on and the monastic culture was still traveling to and from and communicating with Greece and Byzantium. Maybe we are off a few months to a year or two, not more.
The “dark ages” and the “last ice age” is the big con. Which excuse is used depends on whether they have to explain gaps in written records from beforehand. Essentially the geopolitical rebalance that occurs after this and continues through the formation of states is the “rewriting”. Your timeline 200-500 lines up with this period of partial narrative reconstruction.
What was covered up is very difficult due to the “soy meat” strategy of disclosing partial truths alongside misinformation. I try to look at the tangible evidence. We have maps of tartary, trade routes, evidence of ancient Asian trade in the new world, red haired giants discovered across the globe, etc.
I forgot to mention in my long post about Michigan copper found in the Mediterranean, and giant piles of sea shells in Caribbean, and more recently LIDAR found massive cities in the jungles of Guatemala of the mayans and more in the Amazon basin of who knows what. There is physical proof in many places that they lie about history.
You bring up a good point that often gets over looked. Metal alloys are clear evidence of intelligent design that would survive some extreme events
Bronze Age America - https://www.amazon.com/Bronze-Age-America-Barry-Fell/dp/0316277711
theory about nordics trading into michigan for copper.
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The sun is on a cycle. I feel as if a disaster happened that some of our usual suspects used to capitalize on, and subvert our true history
why do you think this?
A shit ton of research on our falsified history. Read the other comments ITT. Check out Jon Levi on YT.
We are the Flintstones ...
Hey Axo, long time I guess since reddit. Anyway, 500 years ago, the Renaissance was in full swing across Europe, so that is a pretty big thing. It clearly had massive effects on today by way of the enlightenment, but I think you should shoot more about 400 years ago for the more "occulted" events you are alluding to. The formation of the Rothschild empire and the first Stock Exchange in London... Sometimes with these "hidden history" topics, it seems people want to substitute woowoo explanations when plain old human greed and evil pretty much covers it. Not even trying to be a debunker, its more of a "keep it simple stupid" when pondering these things: is there a potential for an amoral person to make massive profit? That is usually enough.