An organized minority will always win against an unorganized majority.
Organization have nothing to do with centralization. You could easily have a perfectly organized and fully decentralized community.
And torrenting is a niche thing where most people end up with a virus on their computer.
I'm waiting for more than 20 years to see any working virus for Linux. Still waiting without any result. May be a problem is not in torrents? May be you just should not use proprietary OS where you have a need to download proprietary software in binary form from murky sources, and everything will be OK?
How torrents could be connected with your wrong choice of OS?
Most people use torrents to share music, movies and books and not software.
You are basically saying the way to fight back is to create a black market.
Exactly. It is just a necessary part on the way to win. In any case you will need some kind of goods exchange in your community. If trade for f.e. unvaxxed or conservatives become outlawed, there will be no any other way except creating black market. So why don't you want to create working solition without a hurry and thoroughly tune it to the needs of community before it become an urgent necessity?
That doesn't get you political power.
All and every political power was literally bought on black market. Obviously you can't go to some legal shop and officially buy some political power.
I don't think you understand what the word centralization means. While not a synonym for organization, there is quite the overlap. Being organized is being centralized, to a large extent. It was George Washington's army, not individual militia patriots, that won the Revolutionary War. Likewise, although the IRA was both centralized and decentralized, it was their decentralization that led to them losing. Same goes for about every successful vs failed revolution.
Linux? That's even more niche. The only reason there is no viruses for Linux is because not enough people use it to make it worth the time to create them.
Peer-to-peer needs to be in person, to build connections. To build communities of like minded people who can organize for collective aims. This gets around the free-rider effect.
I don't think you understand what the word centralization means.
Any centralization means inevitable existence of single point of failure. Dot.
It was George Washington's army, not individual militia patriots, that won the Revolutionary War.
Result seems to be at least questionable now.
it was their decentralization that led to them losing.
But it still exists. It is more importarnt to exist than to win.
Same goes for about every successful vs failed revolution.
Every successfull revolution was controlled by TPTB and immidiately after win it eated nearly all rebels.
The only reason there is no viruses for Linux is because not enough people use it to make it worth the time to create them.
Nice. Do you know that nearly all Internet servers running Linux? And you tell me, that some dude windows PC is much preferrable target than Internet server? Tell that story to some sheeple, may be they believe it. In reality, Windows is so bad written and designed OS, that even scholar could write a virus for it. So they just do it. That is why there a tons of viruses for Windows and no any really working virus for Linux. Linux was written by professionals for ourselves for doing job, and Windows by cheap workforce for taking money from sheeple. The result is clearly visible.
Peer-to-peer needs to be in person, to build connections.
No. You don't need to know your peer in person at all.
Dude, you keep moving your goalposts from your original points of "decentralization for the win" are you even aware of it? Now you're saying as a way to discredit that a centralized standing army was necessary to win the American Revolution, that 200+ years later America is cucked. Well, that's not a response to the original point, now is it? Some centralization is necessary, too much is bad. The Founders knew this an limited the central government, but later generations fucked that up.
And just because Windows is somewhat shitty and has a path dependency leading to a larger than deserved share of the marketplace...that doesn't make Linux some wonderkind either. Linux is niche, you know it's niche too, but hey, if it's your preferred brand, I'm not shitting on it just describing something accurately.
Lastly, your an-cap version of life is, well, unrealistic. People build reputational networks of friendship, coworkers and family relationships in communities that make them resilient.
What do you say to the fact that much of the world operates on person to person networking? You wanna get involved in stocks, banking and finance...best move to a big city, especially NY. You want to work in the automotive industry, it's Detroit for America mostly. Fashion industry? NY or Paris. The film industry, well, you'd better move to Hollywood. Porn? The San Fran Valley. Etc. etc. etc.
All your examples is not about modern times. They build all that surveillance and other stuff everywhere to prevent or control any possible unapproved centralization. There could not be any Founders anymore. Literally. All of them would be neutralised long before they even will begin to make real steps to centralization.
Trying to project historic precedents over the modern time is a direct way to loose. The treats pattern for rebellion is completely different now. You could not publish Fokischer Beobachter, organize Boston tea party or even just save community money in Switzerland bank. You will not have international support from nearly all first-world countries. And even third-world will not support you. Times changed. You lost an option to centralize.
Organization have nothing to do with centralization. You could easily have a perfectly organized and fully decentralized community.
I'm waiting for more than 20 years to see any working virus for Linux. Still waiting without any result. May be a problem is not in torrents? May be you just should not use proprietary OS where you have a need to download proprietary software in binary form from murky sources, and everything will be OK? How torrents could be connected with your wrong choice of OS?
Most people use torrents to share music, movies and books and not software.
Exactly. It is just a necessary part on the way to win. In any case you will need some kind of goods exchange in your community. If trade for f.e. unvaxxed or conservatives become outlawed, there will be no any other way except creating black market. So why don't you want to create working solition without a hurry and thoroughly tune it to the needs of community before it become an urgent necessity?
All and every political power was literally bought on black market. Obviously you can't go to some legal shop and officially buy some political power.
I don't think you understand what the word centralization means. While not a synonym for organization, there is quite the overlap. Being organized is being centralized, to a large extent. It was George Washington's army, not individual militia patriots, that won the Revolutionary War. Likewise, although the IRA was both centralized and decentralized, it was their decentralization that led to them losing. Same goes for about every successful vs failed revolution.
Linux? That's even more niche. The only reason there is no viruses for Linux is because not enough people use it to make it worth the time to create them.
Peer-to-peer needs to be in person, to build connections. To build communities of like minded people who can organize for collective aims. This gets around the free-rider effect.
Any centralization means inevitable existence of single point of failure. Dot.
Result seems to be at least questionable now.
But it still exists. It is more importarnt to exist than to win.
Every successfull revolution was controlled by TPTB and immidiately after win it eated nearly all rebels.
Nice. Do you know that nearly all Internet servers running Linux? And you tell me, that some dude windows PC is much preferrable target than Internet server? Tell that story to some sheeple, may be they believe it. In reality, Windows is so bad written and designed OS, that even scholar could write a virus for it. So they just do it. That is why there a tons of viruses for Windows and no any really working virus for Linux. Linux was written by professionals for ourselves for doing job, and Windows by cheap workforce for taking money from sheeple. The result is clearly visible.
No. You don't need to know your peer in person at all.
Dude, you keep moving your goalposts from your original points of "decentralization for the win" are you even aware of it? Now you're saying as a way to discredit that a centralized standing army was necessary to win the American Revolution, that 200+ years later America is cucked. Well, that's not a response to the original point, now is it? Some centralization is necessary, too much is bad. The Founders knew this an limited the central government, but later generations fucked that up.
And just because Windows is somewhat shitty and has a path dependency leading to a larger than deserved share of the marketplace...that doesn't make Linux some wonderkind either. Linux is niche, you know it's niche too, but hey, if it's your preferred brand, I'm not shitting on it just describing something accurately.
Lastly, your an-cap version of life is, well, unrealistic. People build reputational networks of friendship, coworkers and family relationships in communities that make them resilient.
What do you say to the fact that much of the world operates on person to person networking? You wanna get involved in stocks, banking and finance...best move to a big city, especially NY. You want to work in the automotive industry, it's Detroit for America mostly. Fashion industry? NY or Paris. The film industry, well, you'd better move to Hollywood. Porn? The San Fran Valley. Etc. etc. etc.
All your examples is not about modern times. They build all that surveillance and other stuff everywhere to prevent or control any possible unapproved centralization. There could not be any Founders anymore. Literally. All of them would be neutralised long before they even will begin to make real steps to centralization.
Trying to project historic precedents over the modern time is a direct way to loose. The treats pattern for rebellion is completely different now. You could not publish Fokischer Beobachter, organize Boston tea party or even just save community money in Switzerland bank. You will not have international support from nearly all first-world countries. And even third-world will not support you. Times changed. You lost an option to centralize.