No, you misunderstand. I'm not making fun of Q. I think it's too optimistic and uses backwash reasoning to much.
Yes, they have been fucking with elections for decades, at least since electronic voting machines became the thing after 2000 (though the 1960 election was stolen and that was done without them). Probably both parties are doing it, which is the difficulty here.
Yes, the Mt. Everest level of fraud was exposed for all to see. But it didn't matter. Democrats never voluntarily give up power. Ever. They are maybe scared of what the AZ audit will expose, at least privately, but publically they have already convinced the rubes it was a fake audit.
I think Trump would have preferred to win, and thought his massive turnout would swamp the mail in ballot fraud. I don't think he anticipated that they would stop the counting, and just keep going with fake ballots until they topped his turnout. He had won on election night at least. If he knew this fraud was going to happen, than I think he did a shitty job in responding to it afterwards.
I also don't think Trump is any danger of arrest. Elites protect their own (no matter the party) because they don't want to set an example where crimes of one outgoing party are prosecuted by the incoming.
Reagan was lucky his own party took over due to Iran-Contra. George Bush had to pardon folks on the way out. Clinton...well, George W. had tons to go after him for with selling military secrets to China for campaign donations, as did Obama for W's crimes related to the GWOT. Trump had plenty on Obama, he could have had Hillary locked up, but he decided to play the game on their terms, despite the IRS scandal which should have led to prison for a number of people.
This circle jerk racket goes back to LBJ at the very least, and likely back to Truman. When, aside from some Illinois governors and Senator Ted Stevens, have political elites ever gone to prison in the modern era for their crimes, no matter how strong the proof is?
the thing is trump isn't exactly "one of the elites", financially sure but not by the standards of influence peddling and swamp creature type stuff. he's always been that rouge element that they all sorta had to put up with... like the loud boisterous guy at the party that everyone secretly talks shit about but lets him in because he's usually kinda funny and he brings all the hot chicks and good coke.
they despised him but they tolerated him... probably because they were all trying to sink their claws into him and bend him to their will.
they were probably scared shitless of him because he knew way to much, think about the kinds of offers that dude has had over the years... the people who've tried to approach him with shady shit... he knows what all these fuckers have been up to and they all know he's the type of guy who gives zero fucks about putting them on blast for it.
IMO the 2016 election was in the bag for hillary, the fix was in... but someone somewhere stepped in and stopped the steal.
thats why they were so fucking pissed at him.
i've been thinking all these years that the whole "russian hackers" thing was because someone in russia... either military or white hat... stepped in and fucked up their plans to get hillary elected.
they will never come out and admit that is why they were so angry with trump and russia... but they cooked up a bunch of fake russia troll farm hacker bullshit and the steele dossier to try to implicate both parties (trump and russia) in the "theft" or the stolen election.
she was never supposed to lose...
thats why they were all so shocked... why the mockingbird fucks were so shellshocked... why the next day they all looked like their dog just got hit by a car.
they had all the suppression polls fixed to project her winning, they had all their media darlings chirping away at how great she was and how horrible he was...
and he still won.
imagine how fucking pissed off they all were when that happened... how much they owed everyone for all those pre-paid "favors"... how terrified they were when he took power...
the best part about the whole thing is they did it to themselves... they intentionally pumped trump up during the primaries to make sure he was the nominee because they knew they had the billy bush bus tape and they had gloria allred on standby with her parade of lying cunts to bandy about on stage screaming rape over a tit stare...
they thought it was an easy layup, and he just started punching them in the face...
the "cause you'd be in jail" line will go down in history as the greatest mic drop in presidential debate history... and the best part is he did this in front of a crowd that included a bunch of bill clintons rape victims that were guests of trump.
it really is a masterclass on how a blunt truthteller can top rope elbow drop an eloquent liar when you give them a microphone and a podium.
I agree, the media hyped Trump because they thought he would make an easier Hillary win. Tens of millions in free media that Cruz was right to complain about as a reason that he lost the primary.
Trump won in 2016 against Hillary because they believed their own polls, and didn't think they had to ramp up the cheating machine. Remember, they stopped counting in the middle of the night and didn't report for hours and hours in 2016 too. They were looking for votes, but they weren't there, and in 2016 there was the expectation (which wasn't there in 2020) that people would wake up the next morning and know who won. If that isn't there in 2024, then the fix is in again. They couldn't have pulled off the coup without covid as cover for the ballot box stuffing over the course of two weeks.
I'm not sure I 100% about your interpretation of Trump as the outsider's outsider. He was not a politician, yes, and yes, they manipulated him into their priorities instead of the people's, I agree.
Anyway, it was a great four years. I hope he pulls it off again in 2024. His most enduring victory, though, is showing the world how corrupt America is; funny how they are glad he's gone, but now places like England are "that could happen to us" and now they have the Queen letting people know they are putting voter ID laws in place over there.
I agree, the media hyped Trump because they thought he would make an easier Hillary win. Tens of millions in free media that Cruz was right to complain about as a reason that he lost the primary.
Trump won in 2016 against Hillary because they believed their own polls, and didn't think they had to ramp up the cheating machine. Remember, they stopped counting in the middle of the night and didn't report for hours and hours in 2016 too. They were looking for votes, but they weren't there, and in 2016 there was the expectation (which wasn't there in 2020) that people would wake up the next morning and know who won. If that isn't there in 2024, then the fix is in again. They couldn't have pulled off the coup without covid as cover for the ballot box stuffing over the course of two weeks.
I'm not sure I 100% about your interpretation of Trump as the outsider's outsider. He was not a politician, yes, and yes, they manipulated him into their priorities instead of the people's, I agree.
Anyway, it was a great four years. I hope he pulls it off again in 2024. His most enduring victory, though, is showing the world how corrupt America is; funny how they are glad he's gone, but now places like England are "that could happen to us" and now they have the Queen letting people know they are putting voter ID laws in place over there.
No, you misunderstand. I'm not making fun of Q. I think it's too optimistic and uses backwash reasoning to much.
Yes, they have been fucking with elections for decades, at least since electronic voting machines became the thing after 2000 (though the 1960 election was stolen and that was done without them). Probably both parties are doing it, which is the difficulty here.
Yes, the Mt. Everest level of fraud was exposed for all to see. But it didn't matter. Democrats never voluntarily give up power. Ever. They are maybe scared of what the AZ audit will expose, at least privately, but publically they have already convinced the rubes it was a fake audit.
I think Trump would have preferred to win, and thought his massive turnout would swamp the mail in ballot fraud. I don't think he anticipated that they would stop the counting, and just keep going with fake ballots until they topped his turnout. He had won on election night at least. If he knew this fraud was going to happen, than I think he did a shitty job in responding to it afterwards.
I also don't think Trump is any danger of arrest. Elites protect their own (no matter the party) because they don't want to set an example where crimes of one outgoing party are prosecuted by the incoming.
Reagan was lucky his own party took over due to Iran-Contra. George Bush had to pardon folks on the way out. Clinton...well, George W. had tons to go after him for with selling military secrets to China for campaign donations, as did Obama for W's crimes related to the GWOT. Trump had plenty on Obama, he could have had Hillary locked up, but he decided to play the game on their terms, despite the IRS scandal which should have led to prison for a number of people.
This circle jerk racket goes back to LBJ at the very least, and likely back to Truman. When, aside from some Illinois governors and Senator Ted Stevens, have political elites ever gone to prison in the modern era for their crimes, no matter how strong the proof is?
the thing is trump isn't exactly "one of the elites", financially sure but not by the standards of influence peddling and swamp creature type stuff. he's always been that rouge element that they all sorta had to put up with... like the loud boisterous guy at the party that everyone secretly talks shit about but lets him in because he's usually kinda funny and he brings all the hot chicks and good coke.
they despised him but they tolerated him... probably because they were all trying to sink their claws into him and bend him to their will.
they were probably scared shitless of him because he knew way to much, think about the kinds of offers that dude has had over the years... the people who've tried to approach him with shady shit... he knows what all these fuckers have been up to and they all know he's the type of guy who gives zero fucks about putting them on blast for it.
IMO the 2016 election was in the bag for hillary, the fix was in... but someone somewhere stepped in and stopped the steal.
thats why they were so fucking pissed at him.
i've been thinking all these years that the whole "russian hackers" thing was because someone in russia... either military or white hat... stepped in and fucked up their plans to get hillary elected.
they will never come out and admit that is why they were so angry with trump and russia... but they cooked up a bunch of fake russia troll farm hacker bullshit and the steele dossier to try to implicate both parties (trump and russia) in the "theft" or the stolen election.
she was never supposed to lose...
thats why they were all so shocked... why the mockingbird fucks were so shellshocked... why the next day they all looked like their dog just got hit by a car.
they had all the suppression polls fixed to project her winning, they had all their media darlings chirping away at how great she was and how horrible he was...
and he still won.
imagine how fucking pissed off they all were when that happened... how much they owed everyone for all those pre-paid "favors"... how terrified they were when he took power...
the best part about the whole thing is they did it to themselves... they intentionally pumped trump up during the primaries to make sure he was the nominee because they knew they had the billy bush bus tape and they had gloria allred on standby with her parade of lying cunts to bandy about on stage screaming rape over a tit stare...
they thought it was an easy layup, and he just started punching them in the face...
the "cause you'd be in jail" line will go down in history as the greatest mic drop in presidential debate history... and the best part is he did this in front of a crowd that included a bunch of bill clintons rape victims that were guests of trump.
it really is a masterclass on how a blunt truthteller can top rope elbow drop an eloquent liar when you give them a microphone and a podium.
I agree, the media hyped Trump because they thought he would make an easier Hillary win. Tens of millions in free media that Cruz was right to complain about as a reason that he lost the primary.
Trump won in 2016 against Hillary because they believed their own polls, and didn't think they had to ramp up the cheating machine. Remember, they stopped counting in the middle of the night and didn't report for hours and hours in 2016 too. They were looking for votes, but they weren't there, and in 2016 there was the expectation (which wasn't there in 2020) that people would wake up the next morning and know who won. If that isn't there in 2024, then the fix is in again. They couldn't have pulled off the coup without covid as cover for the ballot box stuffing over the course of two weeks.
I'm not sure I 100% about your interpretation of Trump as the outsider's outsider. He was not a politician, yes, and yes, they manipulated him into their priorities instead of the people's, I agree.
Anyway, it was a great four years. I hope he pulls it off again in 2024. His most enduring victory, though, is showing the world how corrupt America is; funny how they are glad he's gone, but now places like England are "that could happen to us" and now they have the Queen letting people know they are putting voter ID laws in place over there.
I agree, the media hyped Trump because they thought he would make an easier Hillary win. Tens of millions in free media that Cruz was right to complain about as a reason that he lost the primary.
Trump won in 2016 against Hillary because they believed their own polls, and didn't think they had to ramp up the cheating machine. Remember, they stopped counting in the middle of the night and didn't report for hours and hours in 2016 too. They were looking for votes, but they weren't there, and in 2016 there was the expectation (which wasn't there in 2020) that people would wake up the next morning and know who won. If that isn't there in 2024, then the fix is in again. They couldn't have pulled off the coup without covid as cover for the ballot box stuffing over the course of two weeks.
I'm not sure I 100% about your interpretation of Trump as the outsider's outsider. He was not a politician, yes, and yes, they manipulated him into their priorities instead of the people's, I agree.
Anyway, it was a great four years. I hope he pulls it off again in 2024. His most enduring victory, though, is showing the world how corrupt America is; funny how they are glad he's gone, but now places like England are "that could happen to us" and now they have the Queen letting people know they are putting voter ID laws in place over there.