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The Secrets of Influenza: Does Influenza even spread between humans? Dr Sam looks into the scientific evidence behind Influenza transmission and fact checks Wikipedia - No clinical trial has ever established human-to-human transmission (lbry.tv)
posted 4 years ago by clemaneuverers 4 years ago by clemaneuverers +32 / -2
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– MusicToMyEars -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

May I submit normal office gossip? They guy coughing up a storm is spreading flu to whomever he’s coughing on. Stay away from him. Send him home.

It’s not merely anecdotal evidence. The process of spreading germs has a certain common sense track record.

Are you seriously suggesting people don’t infect others with the flu?! What next, people get STDs spontaneously?

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– clemaneuverers [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Are you seriously suggesting people don’t infect others with the flu?

Yes. This was demonstrated in clinical trials during the Spanish Flu pandemic. No clinical trials done since then have disproven this i.e. demonstrated human-to-human transmission of infectious influenza particles. Yes, researchers have said that they have demonstrated it. The video is about how this is simply assumption on those researcher's parts (mostly down to relying on RTPCR and not having control groups), and their claims are not proven to a level that disproves the 1918 clinical studies:

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/f/flu/3750flu.0016.573

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– MusicToMyEars -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

Then how does one “catch” the flu? Something akin to spontaneous combustion?

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– clemaneuverers [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Environmental / Atmosphereic factors/causation explains breakouts in many people at once, in disconnected locations. For one example (not conclusively proven):

"influenza" full original name = "influenza della stella" which translates as "influence of the stars". Named that because after extensive observations (in around about 15th/16th centuries), the correlation with breakouts of the disease and solar activity (cloud cover, sun spots) was indentified as the best explanation as to why it occurred simultaneously in people in different places all at once.

Over 100 years of Rockefller funded "one pathogen, one cure" medicinal and microbiological research and captialism has suppressed any interest into exploring the environmental cause of outbreaks. It's not an easily profitable or controllable line of inquiry.

The differing volume of cosmic rays that penetrate into our atmosphere is affected by cloud cover and sunspots / solar activity, and so seems like it could be an answer.

Also it is said that solar activity affects volcanic activity, so there is another causal candidate; since volcanic activity pumps massive volumes of gas matter into the atmosphere, which could affect different populations in different places simultaneously as the atmosphere is circulated around the globe.

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– ImWhiteAndThatsOK 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

captialism has suppressed any interest into exploring the environmental cause of outbreaks.

So close. Government has suppressed any interest.

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– SwampRangers 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Etymology checks out correctly. Not often I get surprised by an etymology. Don't know enough detail to comment on the OP main point.

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