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TIL about "chick culling" (people, please: kill it yourself, or go vegan - this industrial shit is disgusting) (en.wikipedia.org)
posted 4 years ago by xolotltlaloc 4 years ago by xolotltlaloc +10 / -4
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– xolotltlaloc [S] -5 points 4 years ago +4 / -9

then kill it / milk it yourself.

ps. vegan diets are not ideal for long-term lifestyles, but powerfully healthy and super appreciated by the human body for short periods (even months - fasting, etc.)

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– VeilOfReality 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

From an evolutionary perspective, that's not an intuitive stance. The burden of proof is on you

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

From an evolutionary perspective,

certainly it will depend on location.

people who lived on the coast will likely have eaten a lot of fish.

people who lived on grassy plains will nomadically follow herds of big game.

but for the other 90% of the land mass (mountains and deserts), where fish & herds of game animals are not common / predictable, it's gong to be easier to find, collect and cultivate nuts, berries, mushrooms, fruit, lettuce leaves, grasses (wheats, rice, grains), gourds, etc.

and farmed animals need food -- i.e., nuts, berries, mushrooms, fruit, lettuce leaves, grasses (wheats, rice, grains), gourds, etc.

Not to mention - from an evolutionary perspective - freezers didn't commonly exist until but just ~a hundred years ago.

breaking news: meat spoils fast

milk? spoils super fast.

eggs? sure, on occasion we might find a nest with a newly laid egg or two. (rarely.) but a nomadic tribe is not going to haul a farm of chickens along with them.

i'm not saying "meat is bad". i'm just saying (From an evolutionary perspective) nuts, berries, mushrooms, fruit, lettuce leaves, grasses (wheats, rice, grains), gourds, etc. are going to be (generally) much more common / easier to obtain - for both nomadic and stationary peoples.


try it:

  • start a farm in Romania. Or Idaho.

  • zero electricity.

  • zero hardware stores.

  • zero gunpowder.

  • zero gasoline.

  • zero vitamin c capsules.

you can have:

  • a house

  • a knife

  • a flint stone

  • 100 seeds: nuts, berries, mushrooms, fruit, cabbage, grasses (wheats, rice, grains), gourds, roots (carrots, beats), etc.

  • 100 chickens

...drop us a note in 5 years (if you're still alive), and let us know what your daily diet looks like :)

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– VeilOfReality 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This evolutionary perspective predates the advent of agriculture, which is pretty recent, so the farming isn't necessarily applicable. Sure nuts and berries are easier to obtain, but animal fats were likely necessary for our brains to evolve the way they did, so someone (read: all common ancestors of humans) was able to get it done.

For instance, that other 90% of land mass you cite didn't have many people in the past. Most people needed to be very close to a source water because without being by water they would die and there weren't taps they could just turn on.

I feel like your post is condescending without providing real evidence, but I'll resist the temptation to chalk that up to a vegan diet.

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

farming isn't necessarily applicable

not hard to plant some seeds, mate.

I feel like your post is condescending

takes one to know one.

without providing real evidence

and what "evidence" have you provided?

none.

opinion isn't evidence.

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– xolotltlaloc [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

any vegan thats been vegan for 30+ years

i would not suggest a pure vegan diet for longer than 3 months - not unless you are a nutritionist (most people have no clue).

on the other hand, eggs for breaky once a week is entirely sufficient.

You salt or smoke meat and fish and it lasts for weeks/months.

  • smoked meat lasts for 4 days

  • cured chicken lasts up to 2 weeks in the refrigerator

you might want to start rethinking your strategy, mate - seems you have underestimated the importance of a deep freezer in the process of preserving meats.

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– nuffy 3 points 4 years ago +5 / -2

You sound emotionally biased and slightly retarded. I will not be going vegan thank you.

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