If you don't believe they're defunct, then that's your claim. I know polacks aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but can you at least give me something to work with? Jesus Christ.
Again, you don't understand how the argument works. The burden of proof is not on me to prove the non-existence of something. It's on you to prove the opposite. The Sabbateans were a specific sect of Messianic Jews led by Sabbatai Zevi, later co-opted by Jacob Frank. Both of these men died, both were definitively proved not to be the Messiah. Without the figurehead, there's no reason for the sect to continue.
If you can find people out there who still believe that one of these men from hundreds of years ago is the Messiah, then more power to you. They don't exist.
You're talking about something that died out by the end of the 1700s.
I don't believe they're defunct, but I didn't claim anything like you did. You made the claim, not me.
If you don't believe they're defunct, then that's your claim. I know polacks aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but can you at least give me something to work with? Jesus Christ.
Ok, around what year did they "become defunct" then? Since you know SO much about the issue, but for some reason supposedly have no interest in it.
Another oddity.
Again, you don't understand how the argument works. The burden of proof is not on me to prove the non-existence of something. It's on you to prove the opposite. The Sabbateans were a specific sect of Messianic Jews led by Sabbatai Zevi, later co-opted by Jacob Frank. Both of these men died, both were definitively proved not to be the Messiah. Without the figurehead, there's no reason for the sect to continue.
If you can find people out there who still believe that one of these men from hundreds of years ago is the Messiah, then more power to you. They don't exist.
You're talking about something that died out by the end of the 1700s.
So why was Supreme Court justice Brandeis a Frankist then? And born from Frankists. Unless wikipedia is lying.
Or you are.
Oh no, I already know that.
You made the claim first.
So where is the proof that they are defunct again?