Just so that all sides are represented here, I'll comment some sources that indicate there hasn't been any election fraud. Respectfully, mine are a bit more credible than MAGA subreddits and YouTube videos,.
Statement of United States Attorney General William Bar, as reported by the Associated Press on December 1, 2020: "[T]o date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."
United States Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) advisory website on "Rumor Control."
Joint statement of the United States CISA, Election Assistance Commission, National Association of Secretaries of State, National Association of State Election Directors, and the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council: "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."
Edit: For the record, I haven't downvoted any of the comments on this post. This is just an attempt to make sure all information is being properly disseminated.
But surely our voting systems are totally secure and not easily hackable and the claim that the 2020 election was the 'Most Secure In American History' is totes believable because government said so?
Want to cite Forbes? The article is citing the Perkins Coie lawyer responsible for the Steel Dossier. Literal leftist propaganda that doesn't provide any context for each case.
I disagree that Bar, the Trump-appointed agency head tasked with investigating federal crimes, is not a credible source for whether a federal crime has occurred.
Yes, a piece of software meant for IT administration was hacked. That's very serious and I do not dispute that. However, there is no link between that and election fraud, nor has any of the investigating agencies suggested that; you're welcome to present evidence otherwise.
CNN and Warren (along with other top, partisan politicians) are fake news, I thought we all agreed on that here. Hence, I never cite to them. I couldn't care less about the opinion content or author in the Forbes article, it was just easier to cite that than to cite to 50+ judicial opinions rejecting election fraud. The NBC article you cite is perfectly acceptable as well, I'm just looking to demonstrate that this claim has been categorically rejected in the courts.
It is important to split out the cases that were rejected on standing versus a determination that the evidence was lacking. The Forbes article fails to split those out and leaves one with the impression that the evidence was reviewed in all those cases. I have yet to hear of a case where discovery proceeded at any meaningful level.
To the comment about the cases not being about fraud, unequal treatment is likely easily proven without discovery as it is plainly obvious in some cases. This is probably the one way to quickly get cases to be resolved but again, standing makes these tough in the current judicial environment. It was a strategy and one that seems to be well advised despite being a long shot.
Ultimately, like it or not, there is not going to be a true determination of fraud until we’ll after Biden is installed. Regardless, this is the model for stealing an election. Focus on key locations where the means is available and officials are amenable and then delay with standing arguments and obfuscation of facts.
Fact check.org, The Associated Press, CISA.gov.
Hey I would rather get my info from randoms on youtube than gather my information from sites that are clearly owned and operated by TPTB.
Don't act like you are here in good faith . Next time throw in some Snopes and NewYork Times for good measure.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt there was election fraud. It has been proven time and time again. But thank you for your little reports that tell us how impossible it is.
My dad was a union butcher in Chicago. The union steward would bring a box of ballots for my mom and dad to fill out. Started in 1958 and continued, even when dad retired, until dad and mom moved away from Chicago in 2006. That's 48 years of personal evidence of voter fraud in Illinois
Lmfao. Three of my sources are from executive agencies or derivatives thereof that are quite literally headed at POTUS' choice, two sources are from academia, and another is the U.S. judiciary.
All owned and operated by the very people running everything else. Whomever they might be. Maybe you have some WHO statistics you would like to throw out next. Or you can tell us how dangerous the Coronavirus virus is with your sources? That would be amazing!
This is not r/politics? Lost?
Navarro Report: The Immaculate Deception - Six Key Dimensions of Election Irregularities - 12/18/20
Analysis of 3,000 U.S. counties shows Joe Biden received 5.6 % more votes in counties using Dominion Voting Systems (Video) - 12/17/20
Antrim Michigan Dominion Voting Systems Forensics Report - 12/13/20
Evidence Grows: ’20 Election Was Rigged - 11/24/20
Georgia Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman's Summary of Testimony from the December 3, 2020 Hearing - 12/17/20
Five States and the Election Irregularities and Issues - 12/8/20
Voter Integrity Project: Findings and Conclusions (Video) - 11/24/20
The Legitimacy and Effect of Private Funding in Federal and State Electoral Processes - 12/16/20
Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020 - 11/24/20
Explosive: New Data From Rigorous Statistical Analysis Points to Voter Fraud in Montgomery County, PA - 11/21/20
2020 Election: An analysis of voting data from Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin - 11/26/20
Sidney Powell's Team Binder - 12/26/20
Election Night Errors - How did that happen? (Video) - 12/12/20
A Close Look at the Data - Arizona (Video) - 12/17/20
Georgia - A Close Look at the Data and Events - Chapter 1 (Video) - 12/25/20
r/DonaldTrump's Report on Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic - 12/24/20
A (Fairly) Complete List of the Most Significant Claims of 2020 Election Miscounts, Errors, or Fraud - 12/20/20
Skeptical of Voter Fraud in 2020? Here’s Your Evidence - 11/20/20
2020 Election Investigation: Who is Stealing America? (Video) - 12/14/20
A Crowdsourcing Tool Aggregating Publicly Available Items of Evidence
Joe Cheated: Here's Proof
A List of Video Evidence, Evidence Hearings, Court Cases, and Additional Resources
A Video Collection of 2020 Election Fraud - 11/6/20
5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms - 11/23/20
The Plot to Steal America (Video) - 12/7/20
Just so that all sides are represented here, I'll comment some sources that indicate there hasn't been any election fraud. Respectfully, mine are a bit more credible than MAGA subreddits and YouTube videos,.
Edit: For the record, I haven't downvoted any of the comments on this post. This is just an attempt to make sure all information is being properly disseminated.
Why can you guys never just present your evidence without doing this?
How about with all due respect I say your sources aren't credible because they're just think tank and 'Fact check' propaganda?
How about we not cite Bar, since everyone claims he covered up Russiagate, right?
Want to cite CISA?
How about this; CISA: 'Significant' SolarWinds hack 'impacting' local governments - The country’s cybersecurity agency says the hacking campaign discovered earlier this month was “impacting” local governments, in addition to federal and state entities and businesses.
But surely our voting systems are totally secure and not easily hackable and the claim that the 2020 election was the 'Most Secure In American History' is totes believable because government said so?
CNN EXPOSES HOW EASY IT IS TO HACK DOMINION VOTING MACHINES
ELIZABETH WARREN & OTHER DEMOCRATS AGREED THAT DOMINION COULD ALTER VOTES … BUT APPARENTLY IF IT HELPS THEIR PARTY IT’S OKAY
Want to cite Forbes? The article is citing the Perkins Coie lawyer responsible for the Steel Dossier. Literal leftist propaganda that doesn't provide any context for each case.
At least give a better source for your propaganda: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-s-election-fight-includes-over-30-lawsuits-it-s-n1248289
I disagree that Bar, the Trump-appointed agency head tasked with investigating federal crimes, is not a credible source for whether a federal crime has occurred.
Yes, a piece of software meant for IT administration was hacked. That's very serious and I do not dispute that. However, there is no link between that and election fraud, nor has any of the investigating agencies suggested that; you're welcome to present evidence otherwise.
CNN and Warren (along with other top, partisan politicians) are fake news, I thought we all agreed on that here. Hence, I never cite to them. I couldn't care less about the opinion content or author in the Forbes article, it was just easier to cite that than to cite to 50+ judicial opinions rejecting election fraud. The NBC article you cite is perfectly acceptable as well, I'm just looking to demonstrate that this claim has been categorically rejected in the courts.
It is important to split out the cases that were rejected on standing versus a determination that the evidence was lacking. The Forbes article fails to split those out and leaves one with the impression that the evidence was reviewed in all those cases. I have yet to hear of a case where discovery proceeded at any meaningful level.
To the comment about the cases not being about fraud, unequal treatment is likely easily proven without discovery as it is plainly obvious in some cases. This is probably the one way to quickly get cases to be resolved but again, standing makes these tough in the current judicial environment. It was a strategy and one that seems to be well advised despite being a long shot.
Ultimately, like it or not, there is not going to be a true determination of fraud until we’ll after Biden is installed. Regardless, this is the model for stealing an election. Focus on key locations where the means is available and officials are amenable and then delay with standing arguments and obfuscation of facts.
Fatman Barr is that you? Or just another shill....
Fact check.org, The Associated Press, CISA.gov. Hey I would rather get my info from randoms on youtube than gather my information from sites that are clearly owned and operated by TPTB. Don't act like you are here in good faith . Next time throw in some Snopes and NewYork Times for good measure. Beyond a shadow of a doubt there was election fraud. It has been proven time and time again. But thank you for your little reports that tell us how impossible it is.
I've believe fraud has been in our elections at least as far back as Nixon, maybe further
My dad was a union butcher in Chicago. The union steward would bring a box of ballots for my mom and dad to fill out. Started in 1958 and continued, even when dad retired, until dad and mom moved away from Chicago in 2006. That's 48 years of personal evidence of voter fraud in Illinois
Lmfao. Three of my sources are from executive agencies or derivatives thereof that are quite literally headed at POTUS' choice, two sources are from academia, and another is the U.S. judiciary.
All owned and operated by the very people running everything else. Whomever they might be. Maybe you have some WHO statistics you would like to throw out next. Or you can tell us how dangerous the Coronavirus virus is with your sources? That would be amazing! This is not r/politics? Lost?
Trash sources, maybe reddit would like them
Well that's not very nice.
And you are a sock puppet. Move along little puss
go home globohomo faggot
That's not very nice.